Erik's Thread Full of Wonder and Intrigue

[imfeelinrusty]

1. I formed a friendship with Rodney, and I remained loyal to him. I think my loyalty was something that should be respected. I could have easily voted him out and we could have had a boring final tribal, but I wanted to go to the end with him. I would be lying if I didn't say personal feelings were involved. I love Rodney as a person, I talked to him almost every night about a variety of different things.

A lot of people do respect that, but I question that as how badly you want this win. Taking your only threat to the end, not matter how boring the FTC would be, makes me question how badly you actually want to win.

2. I'm sorry you think I have no personality, don't take this the wrong way but the first time we talked you wanted to get straight into game talk. You wanted to know the tribe dynamic from my old tribe and everything. So I did sort of put a wall up with you cause I felt like it was 100% game with you and I apologize if wasn't. More about me as a person, I am 20 years old starting college this year. I took a year off from school and worked tutoring children. I'm in college now to become a nurse because I want to help people in this world. I'm a huge Fall out boy fan, I believe I talked about that to Courtney and some others. I was in a long distance relationship that's been kind of rough lately, and one night I started to tell you about that but then I got talking to Rodney about that so I apologize for that. I'm really stubborn and like to get my way, not only in the game but real life.  I really don't like confrontation, I try to stay away from it most of the time. I live with my two best friends in an apartment I can barely afford to pay for lol. I also have met a few people from the org community because people in orgs can become some of your best friends. I'm also really shy, in real life and here. In real life I can't start conversations with just anyone, and here it's hard to open up with some people.

Actually looking back at our first conversation, the very first thing that was brought up even remotely related to the game was the fight between Colby and I think Rodney, and you brought that up. Of course in going to inquire more about Colby's past from that; why wouldn't I if he gets into a fight and you've almost always been on a tribe with him? It was not constant game with me, and you know that. There's multiple moments where I would ask you about your day, what you're into, hell, that's what I did at the very start when we met! I may have asked a general question of what you thought about your previous tribe, but it was mainly small talk in my eyes, even though I can obviously see now why someone would take that the wrong way.

3. One of the main reasons was trust. I never really trusted you because I knew that you and Rodney had a final two deal. I wanted Rodney to myself. I would always be planting seeds to Rodney about how we need to make a move against you sooner than later. I was really paranoid that you might know I wanted you out. I never wanted you to think I was distant, I was trying to be nice when we talked. We were working together so I wasn't trying to shut you out if that's what you thought. I also knew I could never beat you in a million years.

I figured that was the case, but I just needed clarification. But it was pretty obvious that you didn't want to talk to me much because of how little you spoke with me and how distant you always seemed. It was even more apparent after the Hunger games challenge. For future ORGs, you probably want to avoid making social moves like that if you don't want them knowing that you're gunning for them, especially since Courtney was basically confirmed to go out that round anyway. I think that you could have beat me in the right circumstances, but you at least recognized me as a threat, which is fair.

4. Obviously I wanted to win that immunity but if I appeared greedy then you might have wanted me out. The lie I created wasn't the best obviously lol. But I also saw it as why should I have been the one to shoot Courtney if you could. We were both itching for the immunity win that round lol. If Courtney would have shot one of us, the other would have won as well. It also exposed the alliance you had with Courtney, because I found out after the reason you didn't want to shoot her.

Your lie was HORRIBLE, lol. Cringeworthy. You might have been able to get away with saying that you stepped out to use the bathroom or something, but your lie was pretty freaking terrible. I saw it the same exact way, but after a few minutes, I knew you would never shoot her, and I could have waited for Courtney to shoot you, but I was hoping I could use your misstep as ammo to get Rodney against you. Lol @ how that turned out. Did Courtney tell you about our alliance after that? Or did you just guess? Be honest.

5. I actually used gameshark hacks

Hosts plz ban

6. I confessed at least once per round. I have 3 or 4 pages of confessionals for the entire game. You have to take into account how I was taken out at the beginning of every posting challenge. I wasn't inactive at all, I just didn't make 10 post every round, I mostly confessed right as I was making my tribal vote, and talked about the entire round as a whole.

Okay, just wanted to check. Activity is a big factor in my votes nowadays.

7. Julie said I didn't need to answer the questions, and most of mine were "Do you think you needed immunity?". I always need immunity so I didn't need to answer that ten times. I apologize if you think I didn't care or was inactive, but I didn't think it was required or I would have answered it every time.

That's a fair answer, but you didn't always NEED immunity, you just always WANTED it. If, in some other ORG, we magically play together and I end up on the jury, I want you to answer every question, no matter how tedious. It shows how involved & dedicated you are and gives us some insight from the sidelines. Most people probably don't give a shit though.

1. Mike and Rodney for sure. Rodney was like a ride or die for me. Any move I made I went to him first to get it done. He had more social pulls with the brains, but I was more like the black widow and making a lot of the moves. Mike was someone who always would do what I wanted to do. He wanted to progress himself with me, so those two were people I knew would do anything I wanted to do.

How much control do you think you had over them? Put it on a scale of 1-10.

2. Colby didn't build good enough social connections. Natalie has a temper that can be really mean. Ciera is hard to talk to at times. Erik you are too much about game talk, after two seconds of meeting me you wanted to know everything that happened on my tribe which made it seem like you wanted to use me for information. Courtney honestly didn't have a bad quality, she was just too liked by the Jury. The way Angie speaks to people she wants to work with. Shirin was inactive for the most part which made it hard to talk to. Alex didn't have the social connections with people he needed. Parvati showed her cards too early with the idol play, she should have held on to it until merge.

I've already discussed how I actually didn't talk game with you for a while, so I won't tread over that bridge again. I want you to try really hard to think of something bad about Courtney. Even Jesus did some shit that was wrong.

3. Can I get clarification on this one please

Noted; I posted what I meant for clarification.

4. I only knew one of the pre jury, but looking at activity and challenge performance I would say Burton. He seemed to really care about the game and wanted to play. I think a shot at redemption would be good for him

Don't really have much to add here.

5. My apology would be to Courtney. Her vote off was the hardest for me and made me feel terrible. She really wanted to play this game, and I was lying to her  up until a few hours before the vote was revealed. I shouldn't have led you on Courtney when I had no intention of working with you, I am sorry for that.

This personally sounds insincere to me, but you aren't apologizing to me, so who am I to judge.

[imfeelinrusty]

1.) Let's say that Andrea is voted out first at the merge instead of Parvati. How does this change your game? Where do you go from there?

This would have changed my game drastically. I still would have sent myself to Exile the next round, as I did, but if the Brains and Brawns would have stuck together for one more round, and voted out Parvati the next, I most likely would have become the next Beauty vote, and then you all would have had to turn on each other, or you would have had to keep me for a vote for a few more rounds. Andrea wasn't seen as a complete threat right off the bat as Parvati was, so it is unlikely Parv would have been able to sway enough power, especially how she was heavily targeted mutually by one tribe. Now, if Parv would have stuck around, I would have had to work with her, but she seemed to be tighter with Angie & Courtney, leaving me 4th at best if I choose to work with them. So all around, my connection with Andrea in this game was my best bet because it gave me the ability to have her on one side, and then I play my own game with her so that we could make it further together. Myself and Andrea were on the same page this game, where as I don't think I would have been with Parvati as much. So in that situation I see myself as 8th at worst, 4th at best, unless I would have flip flopped back and forth and made it to the end that way.

First of all, thanks for including the question. It's not necessary, but the formatting makes it easier to refresh my mind. That being said, your reliance on luck to get here seemed a bit too... reliant? That sentence is weird, but you know what I mean.

2.) Out of genuine curiosity, how many confessional posts did you end up actually making? If you tripled your post count, it would still be less than mine, and I was out at least 4 places before you.

I only made about 10. Yes, I know it was not a lot. Yes, I regret it as I love to post confessionals. Real life got in the way with this, and so I sucked at posting on the board, but I was constantly on AIM. So my activity was not so much on the board, but on AIM where no one can really track it but the conversations I had with everyone.

Basically every time I looked on AIM to see if you were on, you never were. It prevented me from telling you about the Spencer vote, and it kind of prevented me from working with you, like you always wanted to do.

3.) How much control do you think you had in this game, and your fate in this game? Give it a number between 1-10, and explain why.

I think I had some control in this game. If I didn't, I wouldnt be here. By voting how I did (the Shirin vote), keeping Rodney, making him "owe me one" and working with him gave me some security. I think I had a 5 or 6 because there was always a chance I could go. I wasn't sure on half the votes as I wasnt working with them, so if even one person turned on me I could have been done, but I trusted my alliance and didnt have to worry. My name was written down, I had some people suggest me as a vote, but I did what I needed to do. I didn't play ruthless, I was honest, and I stuck to my word. I don't think you need to be an in your face, aggressive, lying, manipulative person to win the game.

I'd put it at a 5 or 6 had you made it here without Andrea. But you relied on Andrea way too much, and you were barely around, so I don't buy your answer.

4.) How would you have played differently had the real life situation not occured? Any moves that you would have made? Alliances you would have broken? Be specific.

So, real life has been quite hectic, so I apologize to everyone it has effected and the views that it negatively put on me, but I have been here, checking everything constantly, and doing my best to try and remain here in the game. I would have had more time to socialize, more time to confess post, more time to basically chill with you all, and compete harder in challenges. I would have still stuck with the same people, still played the way I did, I just would have been more open, and around on the board. I was still on AIM, but wasn't around here per say. So, with that being said, I would have stuck with Andrea & Rodney, voted the way I did, and played the way I did, just with more umph in my game and getting to know people better because that it was I regret the most about not being around.

Fair enough. Right now, I view you as Andrea's lap dog, so unless you can somehow blow away my expectations, that's probably the only thing I will view you as. Maybe if you were around more, I would consider legitimately voting for you, rather than a possible pity vote. I think that you can eventually win one of these things, but we can both agree that it probably won't be this time.

[imfeelinrusty]

While we wait a few weeks for Andrea's and Mike's responses, quick question, Rodney. I don't think I asked this:

Why didn't you answer any tribal questons towards the end of the game? You just said, "Not tonight," and spun the question around so you didn't have to answer it. I've mentioned this before, and I'll say it again; I care about the tribal answers. Is there some specific reason why you didn't answer them?

[Rodney]

1.) What were the most important relationships that got you here? Give me two examples, no more, no less.

This is easy. The first relationship for me was obviously you. You were there for me from day 1. We trusted each other as much as anyone can. When we reunited at the merge I was ecstatic. There is nobody else in any org (any 2 of them anyway) that I have every tilted my cards too so much. I trusted you with everything and you did for me. It was because I had a rock like you to lean on that I felt so comfortable going hard with my moves. I knew you would always be there when I got back.

The next is obviously Andrea. I connected with Andrea on a personal level that is rare. We had our fights and we had our lapses in trust but every time we worked it out and we were both kind of playing for each other. I was willing to do a lot to protect her early on and I'm glad she became self sufficient later in the game. It was nice to see her succeed along with me. 

Both of you I consider a friend

2.) List off the bad qualities of every single juror. KEEP THIS RESPECTFUL. I just don't want to see you kissing anyone's ass, myself included.


Parvati should have done more for her social game. She was more than capable of that

Alex should not have been so trusting. He trusted me and he trusted Erik, it was not a wise move

Shirin was not nearly active enough

Angie had 0 social game

Courtney should have invested more in her backup plan. She was smart enough to have one but when it came time to count on those people they were not willing to save her

Erik, what bothered me about you is how hard it was to talk. Not your social skills but you reply speed. I would send you a message and 8 minutes later I'd get a response, I'd immediately reply then wait another 20 minutes for another answer. If you're busy say so and thats all it takes to justify that. Otherwise I don't much that's game related. Maybe a little more personal talk would have done you good too. For whatever reason you and I struggled with that.

Ciera was too inactive to keep up with changing tides

Natalie never tried to force her will, she went along with what the powers thought was best so when it came down to the end the ones running the show had what they needed set up and she did not

Colby never rebounded. He should have started working on a backup plan when plan A didn't go right

[Rodney]

Sept 15, 2015 1:19:38 GMT imfeelinrusty said:

While we wait a few weeks for Andrea's and Mike's responses, quick question, Rodney. I don't think I asked this:

Why didn't you answer any tribal questons towards the end of the game? You just said, "Not tonight," and spun the question around so you didn't have to answer it. I've mentioned this before, and I'll say it again; I care about the tribal answers. Is there some specific reason why you didn't answer them?

The questions were very invasive and I don't like to tilt my hand. On that particular one I was still emotionally removed from things because of your vote out and the corresponding fight. I didn't do the live challenge that night, I didn't socialize, and I didn't want to answer questions.

The next one was literally asking who I trusted the least. My game relied way too much on making everyone feel like they were with me for me to provide a real name for that.

Generally if I felt it was ingeniously asked just as a placeholder I didn't bother with it, but I think I at least posted something for most of them

[imfeelinrusty]

I thought I was pretty decent at responding most of the time, but I know I struggle with that every once in a while. Let's not forget though that when we first met, I was on vacation and in another ORG.

I thought we had fairly decent personal talks, but we did never really talk about anything deep. But we didn't ever need to, we just clicked lol

[imfeelinrusty]

Sept 15, 2015 1:39:14 GMT Rodney said:

Sept 15, 2015 1:19:38 GMT imfeelinrusty said:

While we wait a few weeks for Andrea's and Mike's responses, quick question, Rodney. I don't think I asked this:

Why didn't you answer any tribal questons towards the end of the game? You just said, "Not tonight," and spun the question around so you didn't have to answer it. I've mentioned this before, and I'll say it again; I care about the tribal answers. Is there some specific reason why you didn't answer them?

The questions were very invasive and I don't like to tilt my hand. On that particular one I was still emotionally removed from things because of your vote out and the corresponding fight. I didn't do the live challenge that night, I didn't socialize, and I didn't want to answer questions.

The next one was literally asking who I trusted the least. My game relied way too much on making everyone feel like they were with me for me to provide a real name for that.

Generally if I felt it was ingeniously asked just as a placeholder I didn't bother with it, but I think I at least posted something for most of them

You said that you had come to terms with my vote off two days before the question was posted though?

[Rodney]

Sept 15, 2015 1:45:48 GMT imfeelinrusty said:

Sept 15, 2015 1:39:14 GMT Rodney said:

The questions were very invasive and I don't like to tilt my hand. On that particular one I was still emotionally removed from things because of your vote out and the corresponding fight. I didn't do the live challenge that night, I didn't socialize, and I didn't want to answer questions.

The next one was literally asking who I trusted the least. My game relied way too much on making everyone feel like they were with me for me to provide a real name for that.

Generally if I felt it was ingeniously asked just as a placeholder I didn't bother with it, but I think I at least posted something for most of them

You said that you had come to terms with my vote off two days before the question was posted though?

Yeah but it didn't prepare me for actually going through with it. I told you, I almost didn't even do it. I sat there in my voting booth just staring at the screen for a while. I typed colby first lol. Then seeing you in the chat eager for results, seeing them posted, and the conversion I had with you after, it all did it to me

[imfeelinrusty]

Branching off of Ciera’s question:

Mike, with the exception of the exile play, give me an example of a move that was YOUR idea and solely YOURS.

[parvati]

Sept 15, 2015 1:34:06 GMT Rodney said:

Parvati should have done more for her social game. She was more than capable of that

Are you fucking kidding me, dude? I spent half the game screaming into people's away messages, and the other half watching the "Person X is typing..." text while the grass outside visibly grew longer, only to receive one- or two-word answers. I couldn't have done SHIT to be more social in this game. 

[imfeelinrusty]

Sept 15, 2015 6:33:23 GMT parvati said:

Sept 15, 2015 1:34:06 GMT Rodney said:

Parvati should have done more for her social game. She was more than capable of that

Are you fucking kidding me, dude? I spent half the game screaming into people's away messages, and the other half watching the "Person X is typing..." text while the grass outside visibly grew longer, only to receive one- or two-word answers. I couldn't have done SHIT to be more social in this game. 

Lmao, never change Parv <3

[Rodney]

Welp, pissed off another juror   

[Natalie White]

I would just like to say that Rodney did need me out of the game as well. Had I of been in the finals instead of Mike, it could have gone anyway, but now it's just Andrea and Rodney fighting for the win as opposed to me being there, since I did have pretty decent jury management skills.

I would also like to say that I was playing to WIN, but when all was said and done, I ended up playing Rodney's game. I put my full trust into him, and I fucked up with that, big time. Andrea may have been the reason I got out, but I underestimated their friendship, and I followed along with what Rodney wanted, not Andrea. That lead to my demise and Rodney need try really hard to defuse the situation.

[Rodney]

Sept 15, 2015 6:33:23 GMT parvati said:

Sept 15, 2015 1:34:06 GMT Rodney said:

Parvati should have done more for her social game. She was more than capable of that

Are you fucking kidding me, dude? I spent half the game screaming into people's away messages, and the other half watching the "Person X is typing..." text while the grass outside visibly grew longer, only to receive one- or two-word answers. I couldn't have done SHIT to be more social in this game. 

I meant you had the social skill. I know you're struggle. Don't eat me

[Mike Holloway]

1.) What were the most important relationships that got you here? Give me two examples, no more, no less.

Andrea - We made an agreement from the beginning. I stuck with her, I trusted her, and I came to the end with her. It was one that was reached early, and a relationship that has gone as far as it can in this game.

Rodney - Originally when I tried to work with him, he blew me off. When he needed me, he came to me, and I helped protect him. Without me, he would have been leaving the game, but without him I also might not be here either.

2.) List off the bad qualities of every single juror. KEEP THIS RESPECTFUL. I just don't want to see you kissing anyone's ass, myself included.

Parvati - Self Centered, meaning she looked that way because of how she acted and it turned some people off
Courtney - Cocky, thought she had it in the bag, but others werent on the same page
Colby - Gives Up
Erik - Strong Headed to a fault
Shirin - AntiSocial
Natalie - Argumental
Ciera - Mysterious, made her seem like she was always up to something.
Alex - Talks to much
Angie - Argues to quickly


3.) Align every character on the Lawful, Neutral, Chaotic chart. I don't know what it's called. But your choices are Lawful good, Neutral good, Chaotic good, Lawful neutral, True neutral, Chaotic neutral, Lawful evil, Neutral evil, and Chaotic evil. Look up a chart online if you have any trouble placing a juror to one of the categories.

Ill get back to this one.

4.) Which prejuror do you think most deserves a second chance? Why?

Spencer. Hands down. He was here to play, I loved the guy, and he went too soon and because of a swap that sucked.

5.) Write an emotional, legitimate, sincere apology to ONE of the people on the jury. I want vunerability, not ass-kissing. Keep that in mind.


Angie. I am sorry that I jumped the gun earlier in the game. We had our moments that weren't the best, but we attempted to get through them. I am sorry I lied to you as we were trying to work things through, and I do apologize for that. Even though we aren't the best of friends, I do apologize for not being open and honest with you, as it would have made things worse for a moment but better in the end.